Modi’s Turkey visit put off over Erdogan's Kashmir remarks


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Modi’s Turkey visit put off over Erdogan's Kashmir remarks

Suhasini Haidar

NEW DELHI, OCTOBER 19, 2019 15:15 IST
UPDATED: OCTOBER 19, 2019 16:04 IST



Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan visited New Delhi on May 1, 2017. Mr. Modi greeted him in his signature fashion.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan visited New Delhi on May 1, 2017. Mr. Modi greeted him in his signature fashion. | Photo Credit: AP
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The Government of India (GoI) has decided to put off a proposed visit by Prime Minister Narendra Modi to Ankara, as a part of a number of measures showing its displeasure over Turkish President Recip Tayyip Erdogan’s UNGA (United Nations General Assembly) speech last month where he criticised its move on Article 370 in Jammu and Kashmir.

According to sources, the visit, which had been discussed when Mr. Modi met Mr. Erdogan in Osaka in June last, is unlikely to take place by year-end, as planned earlier.

Ship-building deal
Official sources said India’s sharp criticism of Ankara’s military operations in Syria this week, as well as an “expected” decision to cancel the selection of Turkey’s Anadolu shipyard to build naval support ships for it followed its “unhappiness” over Turkey’s stand on Kashmir.

When asked, Ministry of External Affairs officials said no such visit by the Prime Minister was under discussion. However, Turkey’s Ambassador to India Şakir Özkan Torunlar told The Hindu that Mr. Modi’s visit was expected by his government.

“It is not just an expectation [PM Modi’s visit to Turkey]. It has been discussed recently, and we are now awaiting on alternative date proposals according to the PM Modi’s schedule in the next couple of months. The Government of India has to decide, but it certainly is being discussed, and we are awaiting dates from the South Block,” he said.

Official sources also confirmed to The Hindu that the $2.3 billion tender granted to Turkey’s Anadolu Shipyard earlier this year to help build five 45,000-tonne fleet support ships for the Hindustan Shipyard Limited is likely to cancelled.

While the sources noted that rules for local procurement and security concerns over Anadolu’s work for the Pakistan navy were reasons for the likely cancellation, diplomatic sources said Turkey’s recent statements and its support for Pakistan at the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) on terror financing were also considered.

When asked, the Turkish Ambassador said he hoped the tender is retained. “It is a commercial issue; so I don’t know what will happen. Whenever PM Modi has spoken to President Erdogan, he has spoken of his “Make in India” concept and his desire to build ‘Smart Cities’. So we would like to go ahead with the shipyard project and not put it aside,” Mr. Torunlar stated.

‘Only one vertical’
To a query if India-Turkey ties had suffered as a result of the recent developments, he said he didn’t think “one vertical”, where there are differences, should “define the fate” of bilateral relations.

“There may be one vertical, which doesn’t make India happy, but in other areas, we can work. Turkey too has other issues like the presence of Fethullah Gulen- affiliated terror groups in India… but we don’t bring that vertical on top of all other bilateral relations,” he said.

Pointing to the visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping to India last week, despite Beijing’s criticism of the government over Kashmir actions, he said it was a proof that India worked in various “verticals”.

The Ambassador said his government had not reacted to New Delhi’s criticism of Turkey’s “unilateral military offensive” against Syria on October 10, as all countries were “welcome to comment” on a global issue.

“I think the purpose of Turkey’s operation was not very well understood when the statement was made. But after it was made clear that this was a counter terrorism programme, we haven’t heard anything further [from India],” he said, defending Turkey’s Operation Peace Spring along its border with Kurdish-held parts of northeast Syria. He claimed that all operations were on “legitimate terrorist targets” and claimed “zero civilian casualties”.

On Friday, in a joint statement with the United States, Turkey agreed to “pause” the operations for 120 hours to ensure the safety of civilians and to allow those belonging to the Kurdish groups YPG (PKK) to withdraw from the 32-km ‘safe zone’ along the border.

According to Mr. Torunlar, the operations would allow 4 million Syrians living in Turkey since 2011 to return to their homes. He also denied reports that the operations had liberated Islamic State (IS) terrorists from prisons in the safe zone, and accused YPG militia of having released them.

“We are on the same page as India in countering terrorism,” Mr. Torunlar added, but declined to comment on any comparisons to the government’s position that operations in Jammu and Kashmir also targeted only terror groups.

(With inputs from Dinakar Peri)

 

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If this is the standard then why did Modi host Xi a few days ago?
 

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T T-123456 What is Türkiye's game plan here?

Why did Türkiye decide to get involved in a Indo-Pak issue?
 

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T T-123456 What is Türkiye's game plan here?

Why did Türkiye decide to get involved in a Indo-Pak issue?
There is no game plan,if you know(you do know) the history between Türkiye and Pakistan,you would understand the unconditional support for each other.
I get your point,my country doesnt gain any real economic profit from Pakistan,it would be better to side with India.
So,why support Pakistan?
Well,Pakistan has supported my country through out history,unconditionaly.
Pakistan is the only non-Turkic country in the world we see as brother country.
So,there is no choice but unconditional support.
Btw,our support has nothing to do with religion.
We Turks dont turn on,sell out or backstab no one(we are not Arabs),for sure not our brothers.
This does not mean we are your enemies.
Relations between India and Türkiye are good,no problem there.
 
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There is no game plan,if you know(you do know) the history between Türkiye and Pakistan,you would understand the unconditional support for each other.
I get your point,my country doesnt gain any real economic profit from Pakistan,it would be better to side with India.
So,why support Pakistan?
Well,Pakistan has supported my country through out history,unconditionaly.
Pakistan is the only non-Turkic country in the world we see as brother country.
So,there is no choice but unconditional support.
Btw,our support has nothing to do with religion.
We Turks dont turn on,sell out or backstab no one(we are not Arabs),for sure not our brothers.
This does not mean we are your enemies.
Relations between India and Türkiye are good,no problem there.
Of course I understand Türkiye's desire to maintain good relations with Pakistan but Türkiye could have supported Pakistan with out going against India.
 

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Of course I understand Türkiye's desire to maintain good relations with Pakistan but Türkiye could have supported Pakistan with out going against India.
What did my country do that was going against India?
How should Türkiye have showed its support to Pakistan without ''going against'' India?
 

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What did my country do that was going against India?
How should Türkiye have showed its support to Pakistan without ''going against'' India?
Kashmir is an internal issue of India. Türkiye speaking about it at UN will never be appreciated by any Indians.

Türkiye could always support Pakistan financially & militarily without getting itself involved in South Asian disputes.

People of Kashmir are not Turks unlike Uighurs of China.

Isn't it weird that Türkiye is speaking about Kashmir while toning down its rhetoric on Uighurs?
 

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Kashmir is an internal issue of India. Türkiye speaking about it at UN will never be appreciated by any Indians.
If it is an internal issue of,why is it split up in three parts?
India,Pakistan and China all have a part,how is that internal?
Isn't it weird that Türkiye is speaking about Kashmir while toning down its rhetoric on Uighurs?
Our current president likes money over his kin,most Turks disagree.
Türkiye could always support Pakistan financially & militarily without getting itself involved in South Asian disputes.
By this statement you confirmed that Kashmir is not just an internal matter of India.
We never claimed Kashmir belonging to Pakistan,the people should decide what they want.
If that happened,India and Pakistan could finally be peacefull to each other and not be played by others(China,US).
 

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If it is an internal issue of,why is it split up in three parts?
India,Pakistan and China all have a part,how is that internal?
LoL

Pakistan & China has locus stadii on Kashmir.

There have occupied our land and need to vacate it. Simple.

By this statement you confirmed that Kashmir is not just an internal matter of India.
We never claimed Kashmir belonging to Pakistan,the people should decide what they want.
If that happened,India and Pakistan could finally be peacefull to each other and not be played by others(China,US).
Were people of India given a choice for the creation of Pakistan?
 

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LoL

Pakistan & China has locus stadii on Kashmir.

There have occupied our land and need to vacate it. Simple.
You should make them leave.Simple.
Were people of India given a choice for the creation of Pakistan?
Dont the people have a choice in a ''secular democrasy'' like India?
 

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Who should leave where?



Of course and people of J&K elect their own representatives.
Answers to posts made by another member,check it out first to understand.
 

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You should make them leave.Simple.

Dont the people have a choice in a ''secular democrasy'' like India?
Really?

Is Turkey a democrazy?

Why are you killing Kurds fighting for their independent homeland?

First allow Kurds to have their own Republic of Kurdistan before lecturing others.
 

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Why are you killing Kurds fighting for their independent homeland?
We are not fighting the Kurds,we are fighting the YPG/PKK,im tired of explaining,you need to have a brain to see the difference.
First allow Kurds to have their own Republic of Kurdistan before lecturing others.
We wont allow them.
 

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We are not fighting the Kurds,we are fighting the YPG/PKK,im tired of explaining,you need to have a brain to see the difference.
YPG/PKK are primarily made of Kurds. Turks are not part of these groups.

We wont allow them.
Why? Kurds are natives of the land unlike Turks (who are natives of Central Asia) and Slaves/Janissaries (who are natives of Balkans/Eastern Europe)

You have usurped the lands of the Kurds and now will not give them Independence?

How long will you keep persecuting the Kurds?
 

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