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Turkey, China to fight propaganda
Turkey, China to work together in media, communications, against propaganda
Havva Kara Aydın |06.11.2019

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ANKARA
Turkey and China will fight propaganda spread through the media together, Turkey’s director of communications said on Wednesday.

According to a statement by the directorate, Fahrettin Altun received a delegation headed by Gao Jianmin, the deputy minister of China's National Radio and Television Administration.

During the meeting, Altun said: "We think Turkey and China should work in the new period in very close coordination on media and communications within the new cooperation philosophy."

Underlining that Turkey hoped for strong cooperation between the two "friendly countries" in the fields of media, communication and public diplomacy, Altun stressed the importance of sharing mutual experiences and producing concrete projects in these fields.

He underlined that both Turkey and China had been the target of international propaganda, adding: "We can fight this undue and adverse propaganda, particularly by conducting joint public diplomacy activities and media projects."

Pointing to both countries' breakthroughs in the television and movie industries, Altun praised Turkey's public broadcaster TRT for its contributions to the sector.

During the meeting, Gao Jianmin said: "We are ready to take concrete steps to further deepen the friendship between our countries as well as establish more effective communication and cooperation mechanisms."

 

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What friendship are they talking about?
The people of my country will never be ''friends'' with these Nazi communists,let them free the one million plus Uyghurs from the concentration camps first.
The current government needs Chinese money,thats why this statement.
 

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What friendship are they talking about?
The people of my country will never be ''friends'' with these Nazi communists,let them free the one million plus Uyghurs from the concentration camps first.
The current government needs Chinese money,thats why this statement.
Friendship or not, Türkiye's relations with the West have gone done the drain and you now have no option but to bury the hatchet with your traditional enemies like Russia and China.

You need Russia Defence tech and Chinese money to confront the West.

If Türkiye is kicked out of NATO then you would be joining SCO.
 

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Friendship or not, Türkiye's relations with the West have gone done the drain and you now have no option but to bury the hatchet with your traditional enemies like Russia and China.

You need Russia Defence tech and Chinese money to confront the West.

If Türkiye is kicked out of NATO then you would be joining SCO.
Türkiye's relations with the West will never end,my country is of strategic importance(so,forget that),we have fought many wars with Russia but without Russian(Lenin) help in WWI,my country would be just a 40% of the size it is now,enemies can become friends and vice versa.
China was never an enemy of my country(get your facts right).
We only need engine tech,where from doesnt matter,the rest we have already.
I guess you need to do some research on geopolitics,we dont need to confront the west.
No-one can kick us out of NATO(do some research) and the SCO is not an option for us(no economic gain).
Despite some of your negative and ignorant comments towards my country,im being nice to you.
Remember that the next time.
 

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Türkiye's relations with the West will never end,my country is of strategic importance(so,forget that)
May be but the importance of locations change overtime. In 2014, Ukraine thought that they had monopoly over Russian gas pipelines to Europe. Five years down the line Ukraine's importance is all but gone with the Nordstream 2 & Turkstream pipelines going live.

With China replacing Russia as the primary rival of the US, the focus is shifting to South East Asia away from the Eastern Europe and West Asia.

The battles are being fought in Hong Kong & Taiwan.

Today, US cares more about Taiwan strait than Bosphorus strait.

No-one can kick us out of NATO(do some research)
May be but it is very apparent that NATO members no longer cherish Turkey being part of NATO and are looking ways to get rid of Turkey from NATO.










and the SCO is not an option for us(no economic gain).
What do you say about the following?



Turkey Adopts Eurasianism
by Burak Bekdil
The Gatestone Institute
July 30, 2019

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General Tuncay Kılınç, then-secretary general of Turkey's powerful National Security Council, proposed that Turkey align its foreign policy with Eurasia back in 2003.

Ironically, it was an anti-Islamist, Kemalist Turkish general who first suggested that Turkey should align its foreign policy with the rising powers of Eurasia -- all of Europe plus Asia. It was just eight months before President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's Justice and Development Party (AKP) first came to power, and since then, has remained undefeated. The U.S. at the time was busy with the final touches on the military operation that would oust Iraq's dictator, Saddam Hussein, in March 2003.
General Tuncay Kılınç, the powerful secretary general of Turkey's National Security Council, said that Turkey should seek an alternative alliance with Russia and Iran. In November 2002, Erdoğan's AKP came to power, pledging to pursue pro-EU, pro-West, liberal governance, and wrongly accusing Kemalist ideology of being an obstacle against liberal democracy -- an incredible political story, to judge it 17 years later. Few observers back then warned that Erdoğan's pro-West façade was fake and his deep adherence to political Islam, an enemy of the Western civilization, would one day urge him to seek non-Western alliances.
Ostensibly, the S-400 vs. F-35 conflict between NATO allies Turkey and the United States is a matter of East-West military disputes, reminiscent of several others the world observed during the cold war. It is not.
It was not a coincidence that in 2009 the Turkish military became the first NATO force to have joint military drills with the Syrian army. In 2010, Turkey became the first NATO member state to have exercises with China's air force.
In 2013, Turkey selected a Chinese company to receive a multi-billion contract for the production of its first long-range air and anti-missile defense system -- a decision Ankara later scrapped.


Components of Russia's S-400 missile-defense system are unloaded near Ankara on July 12.

Just like those "shocking" moves, Erdoğan's decision to deploy the Russian S-400 surface-to-air missile system in Turkish (NATO) territory reflects his ideological anti-Western thinking. It was not a coincidence either that Erdoğan in 2013 demanded from Russian President Vladimir Putin a seat at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), a Eurasian would-be replica of NATO. "Allow us into the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and save us from this [EU membership] trouble," Erdoğan told Putin. Turkey became the first NATO member state to become a "dialogue partner" with the regional body -- colloquially known as the Shanghai Five -- in April 2013. The SCO's members include Russia, China, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan.
That statement alone should have sufficed to tell Turkey's Western friends in what direction Erdoğan's Turkey was heading. Turkey's choice of a Russian-made air defense system that is primarily designated to hit NATO aerial assets is a reflection of its anticipation of an aerial military conflict with a NATO member in the future. But which one(s)? Does Erdoğan think it is likely that Turkey will engage in military confrontation over the Aegean skies with its traditional rival, Greece? Or any other European NATO member? The U.S.? Which NATO member's air force will attempt to hit Turkey with its aircraft or missiles? (The S-400 can engage targets at a range of up to 400km.)
As Turkey's "Western march" has come to a dramatic halt, the country has been increasingly aligning its foreign policy with the Eurasian bloc.
Eurasianism is the view that Turkey should reorient away from the West toward an East and Central Asian hinterland.
In simple terms, Eurasianism broadly encompasses the idea that Turkey should reorient away from the West in favor of an Eastern and Central Asian hinterland. Apparently Erdoğan's Turkey is an ideal theater: it can perform an oriental rehearsal. No doubt, the S-400 is also a sign of Erdogan's disregard for Turkey's increasingly problematic place in the Western alliance. Erdoğan's ideologues keep on portraying the U.S. as an "enemy country," and many Turks increasingly buy that line. Seven out of 10 Turks now report feeling threatened by U.S. power, an increase of 28 percentage points since 2013 -- a higher jump than in any country recently polled.
NATO is not the only Western institution showing signs of wariness in keeping Turkey at bay. Turkey has been a troubling candidate for full accession to the European Union; at the moment, membership negotiations are blocked. Turkey has completed only one of the required 31 "chapters" required for accession since it was given accession negotiations began in 2005. Political conflicts keep the procession process in deep freeze. Planned visa-liberalization talks between Ankara and Brussels are going nowhere. EU's pre-accession financial assistance for candidates hoping to become members is being significantly reduced. New funding for the next phase of the "refugee deal" is uncertain. The deal was that Turkey would keep the mainly Syrian refugees on its soil, preventing them from flooding EU countries, and the EU would grant Turkey visa-free travel rights. More importantly, in July, the EU decided to scale down the political dialogue and suspend negotiations on an aviation agreement, as a reaction to Turkey's drilling for oil and gas in contested waters of the Eastern Mediterranean.
While all this is happening, Erdoğan is trying further to establish Turkey as a reliable Eurasian partner, not just by instrumenting its rigid pro-Russian policy calculus.
In a recent visit to Beijing, Erdoğan repeated that Turkey would join the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation. His other words were also music to Chinese ears: Erdoğan mentioned Turkey's respect for "one China". The "One China" doctrine dictates that Chinese territory, including disputed Taiwan and Uyghur territories, are part of the People's Republic of China and cannot be divided. Erdoğan also pledged full cooperation against "terrorism" (read as full cooperation against the persecuted Uyghurs, an ethnic minority of Turkic descent in China who have been fighting for independence). According to an official Chinese report, Erdoğan, after meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping -- and disappointing tens of thousands of Uyghurs still living in Turkey -- pledged further support for China's policy not to allow any anti-Chinese separatist activity to operate from Turkey.
There is no doubt that Erdoğan will now strengthen relations with China, says Uzi Rabi, director of the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies. "He knows that the Chinese have a very multi-targeted policy. They attach military help with economic interests, and Turkey will have to consider it and accept it." Closer ties between Turkey and China will harm Washington's work in its trade war with China, said Rabi. Closer ties would create new trading partners for China, thereby giving Beijing a freer hand in its trade negotiations with Washington.
How ironic it is that Erdoğan has embraced Eurasianism -- the Kemalist ideology challenging Erdoğan's reformist, fake pro-Western ideas. In less than two decades, Erdoğan has embraced it as his main anti-Western policy.
Burak Bekdil, one of Turkey's leading journalists, is a fellow at the Middle East Forum.



Despite some of your negative and ignorant comments towards my country,im being nice to you.
Remember that the next time.

When & where did I make any negative comments?
 

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May be but the importance of locations change overtime. In 2014, Ukraine thought that they had monopoly over Russian gas pipelines to Europe. Five years down the line Ukraine's importance is all but gone with the Nordstream 2 & Turkstream pipelines going live.

With China replacing Russia as the primary rival of the US, the focus is shifting to South East Asia away from the Eastern Europe and West Asia.

The battles are being fought in Hong Kong & Taiwan.

Today, US cares more about Taiwan strait than Bosphorus strait.



May be but it is very apparent that NATO members no longer cherish Turkey being part of NATO and are looking ways to get rid of Turkey from NATO.












What do you say about the following?



Turkey Adopts Eurasianism
by Burak Bekdil
The Gatestone Institute
July 30, 2019

Send
Print


Share14

General Tuncay Kılınç, then-secretary general of Turkey's powerful National Security Council, proposed that Turkey align its foreign policy with Eurasia back in 2003.
Ironically, it was an anti-Islamist, Kemalist Turkish general who first suggested that Turkey should align its foreign policy with the rising powers of Eurasia -- all of Europe plus Asia. It was just eight months before President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's Justice and Development Party (AKP) first came to power, and since then, has remained undefeated. The U.S. at the time was busy with the final touches on the military operation that would oust Iraq's dictator, Saddam Hussein, in March 2003.

General Tuncay Kılınç, the powerful secretary general of Turkey's National Security Council, said that Turkey should seek an alternative alliance with Russia and Iran. In November 2002, Erdoğan's AKP came to power, pledging to pursue pro-EU, pro-West, liberal governance, and wrongly accusing Kemalist ideology of being an obstacle against liberal democracy -- an incredible political story, to judge it 17 years later. Few observers back then warned that Erdoğan's pro-West façade was fake and his deep adherence to political Islam, an enemy of the Western civilization, would one day urge him to seek non-Western alliances.
Ostensibly, the S-400 vs. F-35 conflict between NATO allies Turkey and the United States is a matter of East-West military disputes, reminiscent of several others the world observed during the cold war. It is not.
It was not a coincidence that in 2009 the Turkish military became the first NATO force to have joint military drills with the Syrian army. In 2010, Turkey became the first NATO member state to have exercises with China's air force.
In 2013, Turkey selected a Chinese company to receive a multi-billion contract for the production of its first long-range air and anti-missile defense system -- a decision Ankara later scrapped.


Components of Russia's S-400 missile-defense system are unloaded near Ankara on July 12.
Just like those "shocking" moves, Erdoğan's decision to deploy the Russian S-400 surface-to-air missile system in Turkish (NATO) territory reflects his ideological anti-Western thinking. It was not a coincidence either that Erdoğan in 2013 demanded from Russian President Vladimir Putin a seat at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), a Eurasian would-be replica of NATO. "Allow us into the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and save us from this [EU membership] trouble," Erdoğan told Putin. Turkey became the first NATO member state to become a "dialogue partner" with the regional body -- colloquially known as the Shanghai Five -- in April 2013. The SCO's members include Russia, China, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan.

That statement alone should have sufficed to tell Turkey's Western friends in what direction Erdoğan's Turkey was heading. Turkey's choice of a Russian-made air defense system that is primarily designated to hit NATO aerial assets is a reflection of its anticipation of an aerial military conflict with a NATO member in the future. But which one(s)? Does Erdoğan think it is likely that Turkey will engage in military confrontation over the Aegean skies with its traditional rival, Greece? Or any other European NATO member? The U.S.? Which NATO member's air force will attempt to hit Turkey with its aircraft or missiles? (The S-400 can engage targets at a range of up to 400km.)
As Turkey's "Western march" has come to a dramatic halt, the country has been increasingly aligning its foreign policy with the Eurasian bloc.

Eurasianism is the view that Turkey should reorient away from the West toward an East and Central Asian hinterland.

In simple terms, Eurasianism broadly encompasses the idea that Turkey should reorient away from the West in favor of an Eastern and Central Asian hinterland. Apparently Erdoğan's Turkey is an ideal theater: it can perform an oriental rehearsal. No doubt, the S-400 is also a sign of Erdogan's disregard for Turkey's increasingly problematic place in the Western alliance. Erdoğan's ideologues keep on portraying the U.S. as an "enemy country," and many Turks increasingly buy that line. Seven out of 10 Turks now report feeling threatened by U.S. power, an increase of 28 percentage points since 2013 -- a higher jump than in any country recently polled.
NATO is not the only Western institution showing signs of wariness in keeping Turkey at bay. Turkey has been a troubling candidate for full accession to the European Union; at the moment, membership negotiations are blocked. Turkey has completed only one of the required 31 "chapters" required for accession since it was given accession negotiations began in 2005. Political conflicts keep the procession process in deep freeze. Planned visa-liberalization talks between Ankara and Brussels are going nowhere. EU's pre-accession financial assistance for candidates hoping to become members is being significantly reduced. New funding for the next phase of the "refugee deal" is uncertain. The deal was that Turkey would keep the mainly Syrian refugees on its soil, preventing them from flooding EU countries, and the EU would grant Turkey visa-free travel rights. More importantly, in July, the EU decided to scale down the political dialogue and suspend negotiations on an aviation agreement, as a reaction to Turkey's drilling for oil and gas in contested waters of the Eastern Mediterranean.
While all this is happening, Erdoğan is trying further to establish Turkey as a reliable Eurasian partner, not just by instrumenting its rigid pro-Russian policy calculus.
In a recent visit to Beijing, Erdoğan repeated that Turkey would join the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation. His other words were also music to Chinese ears: Erdoğan mentioned Turkey's respect for "one China". The "One China" doctrine dictates that Chinese territory, including disputed Taiwan and Uyghur territories, are part of the People's Republic of China and cannot be divided. Erdoğan also pledged full cooperation against "terrorism" (read as full cooperation against the persecuted Uyghurs, an ethnic minority of Turkic descent in China who have been fighting for independence). According to an official Chinese report, Erdoğan, after meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping -- and disappointing tens of thousands of Uyghurs still living in Turkey -- pledged further support for China's policy not to allow any anti-Chinese separatist activity to operate from Turkey.
There is no doubt that Erdoğan will now strengthen relations with China, says Uzi Rabi, director of the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies. "He knows that the Chinese have a very multi-targeted policy. They attach military help with economic interests, and Turkey will have to consider it and accept it." Closer ties between Turkey and China will harm Washington's work in its trade war with China, said Rabi. Closer ties would create new trading partners for China, thereby giving Beijing a freer hand in its trade negotiations with Washington.
How ironic it is that Erdoğan has embraced Eurasianism -- the Kemalist ideology challenging Erdoğan's reformist, fake pro-Western ideas. In less than two decades, Erdoğan has embraced it as his main anti-Western policy.








When & where did I make any negative comments?
What economic benefit would joining the SCO bring my country?
There is only trade defecit with the East unlike the West.
Our current government is a populist leadership,says alot,does not much.
Leaving or being kicked out NATO are no options,whatever the sentiments.
 

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What economic benefit would joining the SCO bring my country?
There is only trade defecit with the East unlike the West.
Our current government is a populist leadership,says alot,does not much.
SCO is not a economic organization. China uses BRICS, BRI, AIIB, RCEP etc for economic integration.

SCO is a security organization.

SCO has four nuclear powers and two permanent members of security council.
 

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SCO is not a economic organization. China uses BRICS, BRI, AIIB, RCEP etc for economic integration.

SCO is a security organization.

SCO has four nuclear powers and two permanent members of security council.
You really need to do some research before posting(third time).



''The SCO's main goals are as follows: strengthening mutual trust and neighbourliness among the member states; promoting their effective cooperation in politics, trade, the economy, research, technology and culture, as well as in education, energy, transport, tourism, environmental protection, and other areas; making joint efforts to maintain and ensure peace, security and stability in the region; and moving towards the establishment of a democratic, fair and rational new international political and economic order.''
 

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You really need to do some research before posting(third time).



''The SCO's main goals are as follows: strengthening mutual trust and neighbourliness among the member states; promoting their effective cooperation in politics, trade, the economy, research, technology and culture, as well as in education, energy, transport, tourism, environmental protection, and other areas; making joint efforts to maintain and ensure peace, security and stability in the region; and moving towards the establishment of a democratic, fair and rational new international political and economic order.''
This is the important part of the goal.

and other areas; making joint efforts to maintain and ensure peace, security and stability in the region;
 

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